Comments on: The All Remaining UFA Team http://hockeyanalysis.com/2009/08/04/the-all-remaining-ufa-team/ Advancing Our Knowledge of Hockey Through Statistical Analysis Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:00:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dan http://hockeyanalysis.com/2009/08/04/the-all-remaining-ufa-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4422 Dan Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:47:59 +0000 http://www.hockeyanalysis.com/?p=890#comment-4422 "Right now you could probably get that whole roster for $40 million or under." No, you couldn't. The reason many of these guys are still UFAs is because actual NHL teams won't pay them this or they want more money then what you have suggested and might be able to get it from the KHL. Also, you might want to sign a few extra bodies when Schneider, Backman, Fernandez, and Lang all get injured. And that's just the band aid boys. “Right now you could probably get that whole roster for $40 million or under.”

No, you couldn’t. The reason many of these guys are still UFAs is because actual NHL teams won’t pay them this or they want more money then what you have suggested and might be able to get it from the KHL.

Also, you might want to sign a few extra bodies when Schneider, Backman, Fernandez, and Lang all get injured. And that’s just the band aid boys.

]]> By: David Johnson http://hockeyanalysis.com/2009/08/04/the-all-remaining-ufa-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4421 David Johnson Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:41:14 +0000 http://www.hockeyanalysis.com/?p=890#comment-4421 Actually, the difficulty might be getting it over the Floor. Just for fun, lets quickly assign a few salaries to each player. Alex Tanguay 5 Nikolai Zherdev 4 Matthieu Schneider 4 Dennis Seidenberg 3 Vaclav Prospal 2.5 Robert Lang 2.5 Petr Sykora 2 Jason Williams 2 Martin Skoula 2 Marc-Andre Bergeron 2 Manny Fernandez 2 Manny Legace 2 Todd Bertuzzi 1.5 Miroslav Satan 1.5 Dominic Moore 1.5 Manny Malholtra 1.5 Rob Niedermayer 1.5 Maxim Afinogenov 1.5 Christian Backman 1.5 Blair Betts 1 Mike Grier 1 Francis Boullon 1 Jassen Cullimore 1 Total: 47.5 And yes, I am being quite generous for a few of those salaries. Cullimore would be lucky to get a one way deal for anything much above league minimum. Schneider might be lucky to get $3 million let alone 4. Robert Lang probably won't even get a job in the NHL. Likely the same for Afinogenov and a few others. There is no market for goalies right now so there is no chance that Fernandez and Legace get $2 million each. Right now you could probably get that whole roster for $40 million or under. Actually, the difficulty might be getting it over the Floor. Just for fun, lets quickly assign a few salaries to each player.

Alex Tanguay 5
Nikolai Zherdev 4
Matthieu Schneider 4
Dennis Seidenberg 3
Vaclav Prospal 2.5
Robert Lang 2.5
Petr Sykora 2
Jason Williams 2
Martin Skoula 2
Marc-Andre Bergeron 2
Manny Fernandez 2
Manny Legace 2
Todd Bertuzzi 1.5
Miroslav Satan 1.5
Dominic Moore 1.5
Manny Malholtra 1.5
Rob Niedermayer 1.5
Maxim Afinogenov 1.5
Christian Backman 1.5
Blair Betts 1
Mike Grier 1
Francis Boullon 1
Jassen Cullimore 1

Total: 47.5

And yes, I am being quite generous for a few of those salaries. Cullimore would be lucky to get a one way deal for anything much above league minimum. Schneider might be lucky to get $3 million let alone 4. Robert Lang probably won’t even get a job in the NHL. Likely the same for Afinogenov and a few others. There is no market for goalies right now so there is no chance that Fernandez and Legace get $2 million each. Right now you could probably get that whole roster for $40 million or under.

]]> By: doggit http://hockeyanalysis.com/2009/08/04/the-all-remaining-ufa-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4420 doggit Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:15:26 +0000 http://www.hockeyanalysis.com/?p=890#comment-4420 I don't think there's any way you could put together a team like that under the cap. I don’t think there’s any way you could put together a team like that under the cap.

]]> By: David Johnson http://hockeyanalysis.com/2009/08/04/the-all-remaining-ufa-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4419 David Johnson Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:04:37 +0000 http://www.hockeyanalysis.com/?p=890#comment-4419 I tend to agree, but if you put a true first line playmaking center on there and better goalie to go with Fernandez they wouldn't be half bad. I didn't include Mats Sundin because I expect him to retire but Tanguay-Sundin-Zherdev has the potential to be as good a first line as several NHL teams. Regardless, I think that team above could compete with the bottom dwellers in the NHL. I tend to agree, but if you put a true first line playmaking center on there and better goalie to go with Fernandez they wouldn’t be half bad. I didn’t include Mats Sundin because I expect him to retire but Tanguay-Sundin-Zherdev has the potential to be as good a first line as several NHL teams.

Regardless, I think that team above could compete with the bottom dwellers in the NHL.

]]> By: betterforsome http://hockeyanalysis.com/2009/08/04/the-all-remaining-ufa-team/comment-page-1/#comment-4418 betterforsome Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:36:11 +0000 http://www.hockeyanalysis.com/?p=890#comment-4418 Definitely not a playoff team in my opinion. Some of these guys produced last year, but it's still a collection of has-beens and never-was. They're all complementary players. The line-up is missing that engine that makes a team work. That said, there's a few decent pieces in the bunch. I'm surprised that Seidenburg remains a free agent. He must be holding out for money. I'd take any of Moore, Betts or Grier on my checking line. Definitely not a playoff team in my opinion. Some of these guys produced last year, but it’s still a collection of has-beens and never-was. They’re all complementary players. The line-up is missing that engine that makes a team work.
That said, there’s a few decent pieces in the bunch. I’m surprised that Seidenburg remains a free agent. He must be holding out for money. I’d take any of Moore, Betts or Grier on my checking line.

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